A strong majority (66 percent) of Oklahoma likely voters opposes passage of proposed legislation allowing for the slaughter of horses here in Oklahoma, and of those that oppose, 88 percent strongly oppose the legislation, according to a new poll.

The Oklahoma legislature is currently considering two bills, House Bill 1999 and Senate Bill 375, which would allow for slaughter of horses here in Oklahoma for human consumption in other countries but would maintain a ban on the sale of horsemeat in the state.

A strong majority, 65.1 percent, of respondents in rural counties opposes the legislation, despite claims by the horse slaughter proponents that rural communities support it. Counties within the Tulsa MSA, 69.6 percent, and counties within the Oklahoma City MSA, 64.3 percent, also have high levels of opposition to horse slaughter.

Significant majorities of all political parties also oppose horse slaughter: 72.5 percent of Independents oppose this legislation, followed by 67.6 percent of Democrats and 63.4 percent of Republicans. Another strong majority, 60.5 percent, of conservative respondents, who make up more than half of all likely voters, is opposed to the horse slaughter legislation, as well as 74.7 percent of moderates.

When asked about having a horse slaughter operation in their community, an overwhelming majority, 72.3 percent, of likely voters is opposed, with 91.9 percent of these likely voters in strong opposition. Sixty-eight percent of rural likely voters oppose having a horse slaughter facility in their local community, followed by 74.6 percent of likely voters in the Tulsa metro area and 75.8 percent in the Oklahoma City metro.

A majority of likely voters, 54.1 percent, would be unlikely to vote to re-elect their senator or house representative if he or she voted in favor of this horse slaughter legislation regardless of whether or not it becomes law.

Voters were also asked about particular organizations. The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA) and The Humane Society of the United States, two groups opposed to horse slaughter, received combined favorability (strongly and somewhat favorable) of 69.5 percent and 64.4 percent, respectively, from likely voters. The Oklahoma Farm Bureau, a group advocating for horse slaughter, had combined favorability among 63.4 percent of respondents.

SoonerPoll.com, Oklahoma’s public opinion pollster, designed and administered this telephone survey, which was commissioned by the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA) and the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS). This study was conducted March 16-21, 2013 using live interviewers, with 452 likely voters in Oklahoma selected to participate at random using a dual frame of landlines and cell phones. Respondents in the landline sample were selected by randomly asking for the youngest adult male or female who was at home. In the cell sample, the person who answered the phone, provided that person was an adult 18 years of age or older, was asked the survey questions. The study has a margin of error of ± 4.61 percent. The full Call Dispositions and Rate Calculations were calculated by SoonerPoll.com and is available here.

39 COMMENTS

  1. telling ok politicans is like beating your head against a BRICK WALL
    OMG!!!!!! http://mccarvillereport.com/archives/11826
    Has NOT even made it to the Senate on Monday and the governor is already said she is voting for it withOUT telling the numbers of Oklahomans that have called her AGAINST IT!!!!!!!!!

    Oklahoma politicans R snakes-No rights for the people-Take this topic to a VOTE,so People can speak
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etZ6FzQ3AnU&feature=youtu.be

    • Chrissie, you raise a good question. This legislation has been rushed through the legislative process at a pace that appears to many as a way to keep the public from being heard on the issue. This is how public opinion polls can be so useful and powerful. I hope everyone at 23rd and Lincoln take note of these results.

    • The HSUS and the ASPCA have just released a poll that reveals that 66 percent of Oklahoma voters won’t support horse slaughter legislation. Yet the state legislature, goaded by the phony arguments of horse slaughter proponents that killing horses is good for the animals, seems hell-bent on the idea. Remember though, it took a ballot measure to outlaw cockfighting in the state. There were some lawmakers aligned with the cockfighting lobby who believed it was a form of economic development they didn’t want to squander. Hell, the family of the author of the horse slaughtering bill runs a major horse auction site, and she may be able to get a piece of the economic action that results if Oklahoma becomes the new hub of the American horse slaughter industry.Politician on the take?

  2. This appears to be a valid non-bias opinion poll that should allow the
    People of Oklahoma the Freedom to be heard by the Governor and represented by the Governor in a call to Veto Horse Slaughter legislation.

    • Thanks for your comment. This poll was conducted in the same fashion, using the same methodology, that all of our polls are conducted.

  3. This poll is astonishingly well done, extremely detailed in it’s cross-sections, political affiliations, and representative demographics.

    Now the only question remains – do the opinions of the citizens of Oklahoma, either those who participated in this poll or those who object to the proposed bills on ethical, moral or economic grounds, actually carry weight when it comes to their legislators.

  4. So, let me get this straight, the majority of Oklahomas voters oppose horse slaughter and the majority of the nation opposes horse slaughter? Then why are the legislators in Oklahoma pushing this atrocity through? Someone’s pockets are getting lined! America has spoken! We don’t want horse slaughter!

    • Leslie, you make a great point. With the ban in place for 50 years, horse meat had little to no value. With a repeal, horsemeat will suddenly have a value, and this will not only create income for some but create other problems that legislators seem to be overlooking, like increase of horses being raised specifically for slaughter, higher chance of horsemeat entering the food supply, and horse theft. Supporters identify some current problems such as over breeding and horses being dumped in others pastures. If legalized, it may only trade some problems for a host of others.

      • If horse slaughter is legal in Oklahoma, my horses in Georgia are at risk for being stolen and taken to slaughter. I don’t live in Oklahoma, but with the passage of this bill, Gov. Fallin is making it clear that she doesn’t care about anyone else outside of Oklahoma and what this may mean for us. When horse slaughter plants were up and running some years ago, horse theft was on the rise. I hope she reconsiders and realizes what a horrible death slaughter is for horses and the repercussions it will have on the rest on others.

    • The HSUS and the ASPCA have just released a poll that reveals that 66 percent of Oklahoma voters won’t support horse slaughter legislation. Yet the state legislature, goaded by the phony arguments of horse slaughter proponents that killing horses is good for the animals, seems hell-bent on the idea. Remember though, it took a ballot measure to outlaw cockfighting in the state. There were some lawmakers aligned with the cockfighting lobby who believed it was a form of economic development they didn’t want to squander. Hell, the family of the author of the horse slaughtering bill runs a major horse auction site, and she may be able to get a piece of the economic action that results if Oklahoma becomes the new hub of the American horse slaughter industry. Political curruption?

  5. I don’t get it. If Oklahomans are opposed to horse slaughter then how can the legislators simply ignore such a majority? Is this majority not organized and outspoken? I would think there would be efforts to recall the legislators who are ignoring them. I do hope they will find a way to overcome the influence of the special interest groups.

    • Janet, I’ve been asking myself the same question! I know that one of the bill’s sponsors, Skye McNiel, has ties to the horse auction industry and as such would have something to gain from horse slaughter in Oklahoma. But what about the rest of our representatives? Are they so poverty-stricken that they can be purchased by a few bucks from a menial (at best) industry? Or are they being promised favors? Either way, it’s ugly and it goes against everything democracy represents. Our legislature is obviously and grievously corrupt; those who back this legislation do not deserve to stay in office.

    • The HSUS and the ASPCA have just released a poll that reveals that 66 percent of Oklahoma voters won’t support horse slaughter legislation. Yet the state legislature, goaded by the phony arguments of horse slaughter proponents that killing horses is good for the animals, seems hell-bent on the idea. Remember though, it took a ballot measure to outlaw cockfighting in the state. There were some lawmakers aligned with the cockfighting lobby who believed it was a form of economic development they didn’t want to squander. Hell, the family of the author of the horse slaughtering bill runs a major horse auction site, and she may be able to get a piece of the economic action that results if Oklahoma becomes the new hub of the American horse slaughter industry.Politician with a personal agenda ..plans on monitary gains when horse slaughter bill passes.Curruption in our government.

  6. http://www.animallawcoalition.com/horse-slaughter/article/686
    As a mayor who lived with this plague in her town for many years, who knows what the horse slaughter industry really is and what it does to a community please allow me to tell you what we experienced. The industry caused significant and long term hardship to my community which was home to Dallas Crown, one of the last three horse slaughter plants in the United States.
    All three plants were foreign-owned, and since the market for horsemeat is entirely foreign, the industry will always be dominated by these foreign interests. The corporations involved in this industry have consistently proven themselves to be the worst possible corporate citizens.
    The Dallas Crown horse slaughtering facility had been in operation in Kaufman since the late 70’s and from the beginning had caused problems both economically and environmentally. I have listed some of the specific issues below.
    I will gladly provide you with detailed reports from my former City Manager, Police Chief, and Public Works Director regarding odor and wastewater effluence violations at the Dallas Crown horse slaughter plant in the City of Kaufman.. The reports reference “decaying meat [which] provides a foul odor and is an attraction for vermin and carrion,” containers conveyed “uncovered and leaking liquids,” there are “significant foul odors during the daily monitoring of the area,” and “Dallas Crown continually neglects to perform within the standards required of them.”
    Therefore, in August of 2005, our City Council decided by unanimous decision to send the Dallas Crown issue to the Board of Adjustments for termination of their non-conforming use status. In March of 2006, the Board of Adjustments voted to order Dallas Crown closed, but the plant was able to tie the enforcement up in the courts until they were finally closed under state law in February of 2007.
    Dallas Crown repeatedly described itself as a “good corporate citizen.” I will be straightforward in asserting that they are the very antithesis of such.
    Dallas Crown had a very long history of violations to their industrial waste permit, ‘loading’ the capacity of the wastewater treatment plant.
    Dallas Crown denied the City access to their property for wastewater testing beginning October 1, 2004 until July 6, 2005 , despite requirement by city ordinance, city permit agreement, and court order.
    City staff reported that a $6 million upgrade to our wastewater treatment plant would be required even though the plant was planned and financed to last through 2015.
    Odor problems resulting from the outside storage of offal and hides over several days persisted not only in traditionally African-American neighborhood known as “Boggy Bottom”, but at the nearby Presbyterian Hospital , the daycare center, and surrounding areas.
    Transport of offal and fresh hides on City and state thoroughfares is conducted in leaking containers without covers.
    City documents reveal an extended history of efforts to have Dallas Crown address various environmental issues. Reports include descriptive language including such as “blood flowing east and west in the ditches from your plant,” “It has been over 45 days [it had been 59 days] and no apparent cleanup has occurred,” “Your system has not improved and subsequently it has gotten a lot worse,” “Words cannot express the seriousness” of recent violations and the “adverse effects on the wastewater treatment plant,” and “Please be sure trailers are secured before leaving your premises to prevent spills,” noting also “bones and blood laying in front of the facility,” problems with bones and parts in neighboring yards and the attraction of “dogs and other animals.”
    In response to 29 citations for wastewater violations, each accompanied by a potential fine of $2,000, Dallas Crown requested 29 separate jury trials, potentially causing yet another economic strain to the City’s budget. We could, of course, not afford to litigate in order to extract the fines
    Dallas Crown took 11 months to submit a mandatory “sludge control plan” to assist efficient operation of the wastewater treatment plant though City staff requested it orally and in writing many times.
    The City Manager advised me that the City would have to spend $70,000 in legal fees because of Dallas Crown problems, which was the entire legal budget for the fiscal year.
    During this period, Dallas Crown paid property taxes that were less than half of what the City spent on legal fees directly related to Dallas Crown violations.
    Generally, Dallas Crown has the economic ability to prevail, to exceed the constraints of the City’s budget.
    Dallas Crown had a negative effect on the development of surrounding properties, and a horse slaughter plant is a stigma to the development of our city generally. I have since learned that these problems were mirrored at the other two plants. Fort Worth’s Beltex horse slaughter plant also violated Ft. Worth’s wastewater regulations several times, clogged sewer lines, and both spilled and pumped blood into a nearby creek (San Antonio Current, June 19, 2003 ). Texas State Rep. Lon Burnam, D-Fort Worth, whose district includes Beltex, and Rep. Toby Goodman, R-Arlington, fought hard against legislation that would have legalized horse slaughter in Texas in 2003.
    The horse slaughter plant in DeKalb , IL had a similar pattern. It was destroyed by fire in 2002, and rebuilt in 2004. It was charged and fined by the DeKalb Sanitary District almost every month from the reopening until its closing in 2007 under a new state law for consistently exceeding wastewater discharge guidelines. I can provide you with the documentation of those violations. Like Dallas Crown, Cavel refused to pay their fines for years.
    During this time, I learned that an estimated $5 million in Federal funding was being spent annually to support three foreign-owned horse slaughter plants! And when the Dallas Crown tax records were exposed in the city’s legal struggle, we found that they had paid only $5 in federal taxes on a gross income of over $12,000,000!
    Moreover, the parent company of Cavel has since moved its operations to Canada and continued to slaughter American horses. In Canada they have apparently become even more blatant, dumping huge untreated piles of entrails onto open ground and even using a tanker truck to discharge blood and refuse into a local river.
    I have mentioned only the pollution issue, but this is but one negative aspect of horse slaughter. I have subsequently learned of a USDA document containing 900 pages of graphic photos that show the horrors that the horses were subject to. Behind the privacy fences of these plants, trucks arrived continuously and on those trucks was every form of inhumane violation one can imagine from mares birthing foals to horses with eyes dangling from their sockets and legs ripped from their bodies.
    The more I learn about horse slaughter, the more certain I am: There is no justification for horse slaughter in this country. My city was little more than a door mat for a foreign-owned business that drained our resources, thwarted economic development and stigmatized our community. Americans don’t eat horses, and we don’t raise them for human consumption. There is no justification for spending American tax dollars to support this industry at the expense of Americans and our horses.

    • I didn’t live IN Kaufman, but I was only 30 miles away in Dallas, and I can vouch for everything Louis has posted. Although we didn’t feel the environmental effects directly in Dallas, we felt the horse thefts directly in Dallas. They took three of my friends’ horses right out of their stalls in our professionally run boarding stable right in the middle of Dallas. They didn’t take my horse, but they could have taken him just as easily as any of the others – pure luck of the draw that thy didn’t. This was in 1991, and it stands as the most shocking, terrifying experience of my life.

  7. http://www.vetsforequinewelfar
    VEW White
    Paper
    Horse Slaughter –

    Its Ethical Impact and
    Subsequent Response of the Veterinary Profession

    A White Paper

    Prepared by

    Veterinarians
    for Equine Welfare

    Horse slaughter has never been considered by
    veterinary professionals to be a form of euthanasia. Congress and the general
    public must hear from veterinarians that horse slaughter is not and should not be
    equated with humane euthanasia. Rather, the slaughtering of horses is a brutal
    and predatory business that promotes cruelty and neglect and which claimed the
    lives of more than 100,000 American horses in 2008.

    Given that the debate on horse slaughter is
    at a crucial juncture with the recent closure of the remaining domestic horse
    slaughter plants under state law, the surge in horses going to a grisly death
    in Canada and Mexico, and the opportunity currently before Congress to end the
    suffering of America’s horses through speedy passage of the federal American
    Horse Slaughter Prevention Act, VEW is compelled to inject its expertise into
    the arena. This White Paper will, from a professional veterinary perspective,
    address key points on the issue of horse slaughter and in so doing will lend
    further credence to calls for a rapid end to this wholly brutal and un-American
    trade.

    1. Horse Slaughter is not humane
    euthanasia

    It is the united opinion of VEW that horse
    slaughter is inhumane, and that it is an unacceptable way to end a horse’s life
    under any circumstance. One need only observe horse slaughter to see that it is
    a far cry from genuine humane euthanasia. From the transport of horses on
    inappropriate conveyances for long periods of time without food, water or rest
    to the very ugly slaughter process in which horses react with pain and fear, no
    evidence exists to support the claim that horse slaughter is a form of humane
    euthanasia. Rather, it is a brutal process that results in very tangible and
    easily observable equine suffering.

    It is worth noting that the suffering of
    horses in slaughter is accentuated by the very fact that they are not raised
    for slaughter. Horses going to slaughter have largely been accustomed to close
    human contact whether through racing, ranch work, pleasure riding, rodeo or any
    of the other ways in which horses are used in this country. While some are
    purposely sold into slaughter by their owners most end up at the abattoir
    through pure bad luck: they were sold at auction and the winning bidder was a
    “killer-buyer” working for one of the slaughter plants. To suddenly be treated
    as pure livestock must be disorienting and frightful, and can only compound
    their suffering as they proceed to slaughter.

    We believe that it is an unethical and
    dangerous practice for the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) and
    American Association of Equine Practitioners (AAEP) to attempt to equate horse
    slaughter with humane euthanasia.

    2. Transport of horses to slaughter
    compounds equine suffering

    Despite the presence of federal regulations
    governing the transport of horses to slaughter,[1] horses
    continue to suffer immeasurably en route to slaughter. Current regulations are
    paltry, allowing for
    horses to be transported for more than 24 hours without
    food, water or rest. Heavily pregnant mares can be moved to slaughter, as can
    horses with broken limbs or who are blind in one eye. Further, the regulations
    only cover the final leg of the journey, so slaughter-bound horses moved from
    auction to feedlot, for instance, are not covered by the rule.

  8. Oh my god…I never knew this, nor do most Americans. What can we do? It sounds like there is over breeding and no responsible way to end an old horses life on a large scale. What new ways must we come up with other than continuing to ship our horses to Mexico and Canada. They obviously don’t care about the brutality of this business.
    There is always going to be a need to assist with the end of life for a horse if the owner is not willing to do it kindly and humanely in their own back yard. How can we find a way to provide this service humanly, but not to satisfy the conscience of man, but to prevent the suffering of these most magnificent animals that we have relied on to build all that America stands for. Where is the science behind all this to find ways to put a horse down so they have no fear. We do it for our best friends the dogs and cats, but why is it not required for our horses.? Where are the rules and regulations for the industry that breeds abundances of unwanted horses that just continue to add to the problems..How is this all going to change so we don’t have to keep fighting for the humane treatment of our domestic and wild horses. We can’t keep brushing it under the carpet, it has to be dealt with now otherwise they will continue to suffer here, Mexico, Canada or where ever.
    I do not believe the commercial slaughter plants are the answer, and I will fight endlessly for the humane treatment of our wild and domestic horses. I will keep reading and learning to see how I can best assist, if it’s signing petitions, attending demonstrations and writing letters into kingdom-come, then I will do so.

    • Hi Barbara, the Facebook page Oklahomans Against Horse Slaughter in 2012 and Beyond is a great resource for information and ideas for ways to be active.

  9. When the majority of OK folks and over 80% of US taxpayers are against horse slaughter (which includes shipping to Canada & Mexico for slaughter), why are some politicians trying to ram this down our throats? Easy answer…..those same politicians are in the pockets of big money groups like Farm Bureau & Cattlemen’s Assoc.
    It WILL backfire on them…..many have already cancelled their policies with Farm Bureau and STOPPED eating beef, myself included.

    Other folks on these comments have already mentioned what happened to the town of Kaufman TX when they had a horse slaughter plant…..it was not pretty. But let’s get to the real issue that will affect everyone in the US, whether they are for or against horse slaughter…..do you not think the same thing will happen in the US that is happening now in Europe……it may be already happening cause the USDA is not an be all, end all protector of our food supply. Could very well be happening in the US right now. Why do you think most medications given to horses (even something as simple as horse de-wormer) state clearly on the package: Not intended for horses meant for human consumption. And there is no better regulation in the US just because there are a few USDA inspectors around…..just look at the YouTube videos of US horse slaughter plants in the US when they were open.

  10. Let’s talk about horse slaughter and the ludicrous possibility that millions in funding to the USDA would go to inspect a process in clear violation of the Humane Slaughter Act of 1958 for foreign-backed companies and a foreign market:

    Bovines and equines (cattle and horses) are both supposed to be “rendered insensible with a single (1) shot” before vivisection, before they hang on the hook, according to Federal Law. A large percentage (at least 40%) of horses regain consciousness on slaughter lines after they are hanging. The captive-bolt is ineffective at rendering them senseless and they are routinely shot in the head multiple times before their vivisection for harvesting is completed. Animal advocates are outraged over this because of the extremity of this barbaric practice. This is evidenced in the following video, as well as many that can be found on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwPqh43_NkM.

    The specific fact that equines commonly have to be struck multiple times with the captive-bolt, or shotgun, is what makes commercial horse slaughter in the U.S. a clear violation of the Humane Slaughter Act of 1958. The meat produced contains dangerous levels of adrenaline and cortisol, in addition to all the prohibited substances and medications given U.S. horses. It’s bad meat and baaad business.

  11. Folks also need to be aware that it’s not just over-breeding by backyard breeders or the horse racing industry, but by the Pharmaceutical industry. Those companies that manufacture replacement hormone drugs, like Premarin, are constantly dumping their “no longer useful” horses and offspring into the auction industry. How many women out there taking Premarin, actually know it’s short for Pregnant Mare Urine, and what these mares go through to provide the urine?

    • Julie, you are so right! people fail to remember that.. what they might also not know is that those drug companies had thousands of mares …they were and are kept in tight stalls so they can’t move or lay down. tubes are placed up their noses and into their bladders. water is forced into them though the nose…and the urine of the pregnant mares are collected from the bladder tubes! and.. if you think that’s not bad enough…when they give birth…the foals are taken from them… if recues can’t take them..they are discarded like trash! premarin and other hormone replacement pills made with the urine…was proven to triple and cause breast cancer! it was only recognized after 10 years of being on the market!!! the mares are kept pregnant. thousands of horses suffered and still do at the hands of drug companies…doctors are still prescribing these pills to unknowing women! it gives women breast cancer! thanks Julie for reminding others of this insane practice….and a cause for over-breeding! one solution could be to hold breeders. drug companies, and ALL people responsible! if you have a horse that is old or sick…call a vet. and have it put down…which is the ONLY HUMANE way to kill a horse! fine farms. companies, organizations, an owners liable…financially.. and morally! if you have horses that you cannot cares and you can’t find a rescue or anyone else to buy, or take them…. call a vet or be fined and jailed!

  12. In a sick way the video that Tim Sappington released the other day brings all of this to an light. It takes a thick skin to shoot horse after horse with the captive bolt (which is inefficient at best), then skin and process them. Day after. At the end of the day your suppose to go home and leave it all behind.

    Well Oklahoma did any of you bother reading what Paula Bacon had to say about her town. Toxic waste, smells, crime. Quality of life and businesses that left because of what was going on.

    Do you really encourage Tim Sappington’s to come and apply for work in your towns? That’s the mentality it takes.

    So who can stop this? I’ve heard your legislators claiming about property rights and how we’re trying to remove all animal agriculture. I can only speak for me. Bunk. If you want to shoot your horse for personal consumption–I have less issue with that. But one doesn’t post it to the Internet and curse people, and immediately after shoot the animal. That is a threat to all of us. As for animal agriculture–here’s my take on things. We’ve seen and have been made aware of dispicable abuse against animals before slaughter. Absolutely illegal. Those animals are to be treated with care and concern. Not picked up with a fork lift, not have a full on hose shoved up their nose. Not whipped or kicked. If this makes me anti animal agriculture–then okay. I do on occasion enjoy red meat. But not at the risk of the abuse I’ve seen. That’s why I don’t eat at Burger King–vile abuse was documentated at one of their plants.

    I fear some of the people your legislators are listening to also would have you believe that horse tripping isn’t harmful or dangerous to the horse. I suggest your legislators sit and watch not only video clips on horse tripping but also listen to the same pro slaughter people tell ou how wonderful this sport is. BARF!

  13. Our best and most powerful weapon is to push our elected officials to stand in support of and pass, The Safeguard American Food Exports Act.

    Step 1:
    https://secure.humanesociety.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=5933&s_src=sh_facebook_tyA5933#.UUCr91v_xTs.facebook

    Step 2: Vote in SUPPORT
    https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/113/hr1094
    https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/113/s541

    H.R. 1094: Safeguard American Food Exports Act
    81% Support
    19% Oppose

    S. 541: Safeguard American Food Exports Act
    81% Support
    19% Oppose

  14. Please sign the petition on Change org, its located under animals. Petition to Overturn the Legalization of the slaughter of horses for Human Consumption. If they open slaughter houses NO matter how much they say we will NOT see it in our food supply the proof is in the European Nations Scandals look up the horsemeat scandal UK, Ireland, Russia, Africa, many others, and several hours ago Greece joined the disgruntled diners who found horsemeat, horsemeat containing bute in their foods are being investigated. I want to make sure people call their US Senator and Congressman and tell them this is NOT going to happen in our United States and they need to stop hauling horses to Mexico and Canada. This opening of another slaughterhouse shows NO indication of stopping the issues in Mexico or Canada this is just a smokescreen to get sympathy so we will KILL horses here. So They wont be any LESS DEAD if killed here, and they will still endure the pain and agony. Where does Skye McNeil fall out of that she thinks a bunch of barely trained people are gonna Suddenly be the best at killing horses in a slaughter house? That’s even more crap to sell OK. I have swampland in Florida I will sell you if you buy into this garbage. And take a look at this Dave Duquette’s proposal to open within a quarter of a mile and rehabilitation center for disabled kids taking therapy lessons and college students who will train??? these animals while they fatten up to go a quarter mile away to be killed for money! If you have disabled children do YOU want them in a place that smells of dead and dying horse bodies, no, read his description of it yourself. On the same property as the slaughterhouse! Do you want to take therapy of lessons and come in next week and the old girl you rode was packaged for food, you petted her this week, and they slashed her neck the next. College parents do you want your daughters and sons who you worked your butts off to send to college to spend their internship in horse training learning to harvest and killer animals. The horses will smell the death from miles away-not to mention the types of people your kids will be exposed to-killer buyers hauling animals in with felony records just a quarter mile from your kids and college age adults??? Sound crazy-well lets get crazier hes doing this as a non-profit so on OUR dime. Does this really interest anyone? So when you think Skye McNeil has a lost a wheel and only turns one direction in a circle wait to see the rest of this killing crew! Meet Sue Wallis who evidently has a really bad history with horses and doesn’t own any, but knows whats best for you and I-to kill everyone’s animals when asked about the horse thefts increasing she told people on camera mind you, then I guess you just contributed to the cause. So I want people to understand when Skye and people like her grow up in the auction atmosphere they don’t keep anything long enough to grow attached and in the horse industry we bond with our animals, earn their trust, and work with them, they are not just another addition to a farm. So horsepeople get the most out of their animals. People who are screaming they are trying to stop us from slaughtering cows or whatever ARE OUT OF THEIR MINDS! I eat meat, I eat Chicken, I know where they are from I know they are slaughtered. But we are just stopping the HORSE slaughter. And for those such as DAVE DUQUETTE spreading lies we are trying to stop all slaughter are just twisting the truth. Cattle are meant for consumption-this wont leave and opening to stop them from being slaughtered AT ALL. And I would like to point out that he may be inside the Quarter horse Association but his facility will only train horses for reining which is his specialty. Considering the horses he has ridden to championships were trained by REAL horsetrainers before him, I don’t forsee many horses will be living after he gets them. Another smokescreen. So we stop slaughtering horses and that’s the end of it. This is the ONLY way the PRO-slaughter people can convince people to come to the dark side with lies. As for the last lie they are spreading with their “calvary” again friends of the dark side-are saying the SAFE Act will stop horse shows if they see injuries to horses and shut them down and sue them. So let me clarify since this man is definitely NEW to horse arena’s if he would EVER have READ the by-laws in the AQHA himself he would read that they can ban people, fine, or even charge people who violate animal abuse rules they set forth in the laws and by-laws of horse shows, as well it even provides pretty sketches of the improper illegal equipment. So all registries and horse shows have laws and by-laws, especially Snaffle bit association, NBHA, Cutting horse, REining, Racing, quarter and thoroughbred. So they will ONLY BE UPHOLDING THEIR own laws and anything outside that is STILL handled by local and state authorities if needed. Now his issue is the fact the Tennessee Walking Horse Trainers and owners, several handfuls of show horses that have been abused by soring=for those of you who do not know this, Tennessee walkers have their own regulations banning this practice, the only thing they are making a law for are the trainers who refuse to follow the Ban and continue to injure the horses intentionally. They drill tiny holes in the horses hooves and put kerosene, gasoline and other substances into the hoof burning the horses causing high action, they put chemicals in coronary ban, and do many other things to injure the horses. They are making a law to prevent trainers from be “let off by the organizations putting on the shows”. That’s it! It has no juristition on ANY other breeds, or shows, or organizations, and NO has not and will make any other laws get passed. This has been going on in TW’s for 30 plus years. I used to train TW’s myself and know firsthand this is dangerous and needs stopped, it leaves animals crippled at an early age and no matter how awesome it appears, its painful to the horses and since they wouldn’t police themselves as ALL organizations do-even small clubs use the Associations and larger organizations rules so they are all uniform now. This is the one thing that has become so serious that horses are put down because of the intentional harm. So all lies from Duquette and his team. We need the SAFE Act. And as a Professional Horse Trainer, I have trained in several breeds and I have won Congress 3 times, 6 World champs, 7 National champs, in AQHA, Jubilee, and JAmboree, as well as 3 times World Appaloosa, 4 times National Champs, 16 state titles in Illinois, Missouri, Ohio, Indiana combined, and our family has trained and bred since the 1940’s generation after generation. My grandfather showed at Cow Palace and Won many championships, reining, cowhorse, all-around horse, working cowhorse, and believe he even won in jumping and cross country to prove his horses. We have stood a handfuls of famous stallions with limited bookings and private treaties over 40 years combined. WE are NOT new to this industry. My own stallion won a place on a USET team! So please do not misunderstand we bring to the table the experience to read between the lines. So I hope you vote for the SAFE Act and contact all who will listen, for our safety against blackmarket horsemeat, and the scandal in Europe coming to America, our childrens health and the fact that we don’t inexperienced and non-horse people proposing ridiculous ideas and fighting against the safety of the horses, ignore their stories and lies and get on board. WE eat Cows-NOT horses! And According to the EU they don’t exactly want ours either!

  15. Expel the evil. Kick them out of office. Locals, don’t let them buy gasoline, don’t let them eat in your restaurants, don’t let them buy food from your grocery stores, don’t let them buy new tires for their taxpayer-paid for vehicles. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE TO SERVE THEM. Run them out.

  16. I agree with all of the above comments. I live in Illinois and fought with a group of advocates to close Cavel, Intl down. Representative Robert Molaro was the champion for the bill. He fought long and hard with many of the other Legislators providing them with the necessary documentation. Cavel, Intl even though a foreign company was allowed all the avenues of our legal system when our state citizens tried to close them down. I am amazed that they are allowed to operate in our country and get away with paying the lowest possible tax, while the rest of us pay more than our far share. As Americans we need to send the message loud and clear that we are not going to accept this. The impact to the environment is very deadly, but the inhumane treatment to the equines that we all loved is the worst. Several stolen horses showed up at Cavel, Intl. One horse was sent down here from Canada. The family was told she would go to a good home. When the family found that Montana was headed to slaughter they contacted the DeKalb County Sheriff who made a visit to the slaughterhouse. Sure enough their horse was there..the poor family had to pay double the price to get their family horse back from the Cavel, Intl. Another family trusted their lovely Appaloosas to a freind for care for a while. They too found that their horses had been slaughtered. This family was not so lucky…Many mares in foal were also sent to Cavel, Intl This company is and was heartless. If the mares foaled, the babies were killed also, and not so kindly. This company trucked anything in to be killed. Sometimes there would be so many horses to be killed they would not have the time to kill them all. One such occurance happened with a mare foaling over night. The next day one of the workers came in and found the sorrel mare protecting a little paint colt. He in turn let one of the USDA inspectors know. This man saw the mare and the foal and instructed the worker to pull them out and put them in another location. When the other inspector heard this, he instructed the worker to remove the foal, kill it and put the mare back into the slaughter area. I can only say the Angels must have been with the horses. A heated disagreement took place with the local humane society being called to come and take the horses. I will never forget the names given to the horses – the mare was given the name of Copper Penny due to her bright red coat color and the beautiful little paint foal who would be about 5 now was called Justin Time. Horse slaughter is a disgusting and inhumane death for a horse. Many people do not know what goes on in a slaughterhouse. If they knew they would never support it. Our Illinois Legislators were informed with all the necessary documentation from all avenues. They were shown the video tapes and some could not bear to watch them. I would bet that these foreign companies are at it again and have probably made some big promises. It is not the welfare of the equines in question, but the BLOOD money that they would receive from the deaths of these animals. I am an ADVOCATE and a CHAMPION for the survival of our horses and other equines. We must NEVER allow these foreign companies back on US soil again! They are NO good for the communities/counties and states. They care nothing about Americans or the horses and other equines that we cherish.. If our horses are even remotely cared for they have usually received one of 26 cancer causing agents. The meat if consumed can cause cancer in humans. Why would we want any human being or other animal to consume this meat? American horses are not breed as a meat source. They are raised for recreational pleasure and competition. They are part of our families. Wake up America and let’s all be champions for the horses and other equines… They have taken us through the history of our country. Surely, this is not a fitting end to their lives.

  17. Just listened to an interview with Governor Fallon. Apparently, shes all for this bill & slaughter. According to her, we “need a way to HUMANELY end the lives of our old & abandoned horses”. Doesn’t sound like she has looked at these polls. Will they make a difference? Unless Oklahomans rise up & demand that this stops – sure doesn’t sound like it. Anyone who actually reads & understands the emails here would certainly realize this is an inhumane & brutal way to end a horses life. Especially since there is NO need for it.

  18. I suggest we send the Oklahoma Governor a few horse slaughter videos, so she can see for herself how humane it is. Between the cost of the USDA inspectors, the waste treatment center updated to accomodate horse slaughter, the smell and the traumatized adults and children. The state of Oklahoma could easily afford to send a Vet for proper euthanization of those poor, suffering, old horses.

  19. Old and sick horses do not go to slaughter. Most horses (93%) are young with their whole lives ahead of them. Many are registered animals the breeders have dumped at the local meat sale because they weren’t perfect. Get rid of the imperfect and make some new ones. Canada has had horse slaughter right along and their level of abuse and neglect has stayed the same. Having a governor that spews such stupidity about slaughter being a humane end to anything should show the Oklahoma voters what a ‘gem’ they have in office and come election day, move them to mark a different box on the ballot! Having congress people in office that ramrod such an unpopular bill through while totally disregarding the will of the people should move them to do the same!

  20. Why aren’t all of you trying to stop chicken and cow slaughter, are you saying that their slaughter is humane and the proposed horse slaughter is not???? Isn’t that a confusing message

  21. Let’s talk about horse slaughter and the ludicrous possibility that millions in funding to the USDA would go to inspect a process in clear violation of the Humane Slaughter Act of 1958 for foreign-backed companies and a foreign market that is many times an illegal one:

    Bovines and equines (cattle and horses) are both supposed to be “rendered insensible with a single (1) shot” before vivisection, before they hang on the hook, according to Federal Law. A large percentage (at least 40%) of horses regain consciousness on slaughter lines after they are hanging. The captive-bolt is ineffective at rendering them senseless and they are routinely shot in the head multiple times before their vivisection for harvesting is completed. Animal advocates are outraged over this because of the extremity of this barbaric practice. This is evidenced in the following video, as well as many that can be found on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwPqh43_NkM. And here is the law: http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/07C48.txt.

    You cannot restrain the head of a horse to correctly apply the pneumatic captive-bolt gun apparatus to their forehead. The gun has a pressure-release trigger and use of it on horses requires multiple shots to render them senseless. Some skulls from slaughtered horses recovered at rendering plants have 4 or 5, and sometimes up to 20 or more, holes in them.

    The specific fact that equines commonly have to be struck multiple times with the captive-bolt, or shotgun, is what makes commercial horse slaughter in the U.S. a clear violation of the Humane Slaughter Act of 1958. The meat produced contains dangerous levels of adrenaline and cortisol, in addition to all the prohibited substances and medications given U.S. horses.

    It’s bad meat and baaad business.

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